Model comparison · scores as of 19 October 2026
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash vs Qwen3.8-Max
Qwen3.8-Max is ahead: it scores 1482 on LMArena against DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash’s 1475, a 7-point lead.
| DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash | Qwen3.8-Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Made by | DeepSeek | Alibaba Qwen |
| LMArena text score | 1475 | 1482 |
| Leaderboard position | #0 of 87 | #0 of 87 |
| Released | 10 September 2026 | 3 August 2026 |
| Lab’s AI Race rank today | #6 | #4 |
| Lab capability score | 79.0 | 80.0 |
LMArena scores come from millions of blind side-by-side votes: people see two anonymous answers and pick the better one. It measures how good answers feel to people across everyday tasks, not one narrow skill. More on benchmarks.
Which labs are winning overall?
| # | Lab | Index | 24h | Flagship |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Meta | 94.3 | −0.1 | Muse Wonder |
| 2 | Anthropic | 91.6 | −0.1 | Claude Opus 5.5 |
| 3 | Google DeepMind | 89.7 | −0.1 | Gemini 4 Argon |
| 4 | Alibaba Qwen | 80.6 | −0.1 | Qwen3.8-Max |
| 5 | OpenAI | 80.4 | ±0.0 | GPT-6 Astra |
| 6 | DeepSeek | 73.8 | −0.1 | DeepSeek V4.1-Flash |
| 7 | xAI | 70.8 | −0.1 | Grok 4.7 |
| 8 | Moonshot AI | 58.8 | ±0.0 | Kimi K3 |
| 9 | Mistral AI | 56.5 | ±0.0 | Mistral Large 4 |
| 10 | Apple | 50.1 | ±0.0 | Siri AI (iOS 27) |
See the labs head to head: DeepSeek vs Alibaba Qwen · full model leaderboard